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		<title>Comment on Thomas Jefferson on &#8220;implied powers&#8221; of the Congress by Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
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		<description>Wondering if you know the source of the painting on this blog (looks like George Washington holding a document at the Continental Congress)</description>
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		<title>Comment on Thomas Jefferson on &#8220;implied powers&#8221; of the Congress by PFB Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; State Health Reform a Model for&#8230;Federal Government?</title>
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		<dc:creator>PFB Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; State Health Reform a Model for&#8230;Federal Government?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Article I, Section 8, to broaden the powers of the United States vis-a-vis the States, but that argument is easily dismissed. To lay taxes to provide for the general welfare of the United States, that is to say, “to lay [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Article I, Section 8, to broaden the powers of the United States vis-a-vis the States, but that argument is easily dismissed. To lay taxes to provide for the general welfare of the United States, that is to say, “to lay [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Free market, profit incentive eliminate racism by Other alex</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is incorrect.</description>
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		<title>Comment on If we the people leave, do they the rulers win? by sandrar</title>
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		<description>Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post... nice! I love your blog.  :) Cheers! Sandra. R.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Liberty, justice, taxes, and the U.S. Constitution by Tomas Real</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas Real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slavery is when someone or government forces you to make payment to them for something that belongs to you. Slavery occurs because governments prohibit the ownership of property. In every case this boils down to some form of Property Tax. The worse case is when they prohibit the ownership of our bodies and our tax must be paid with our day to day labor.  The next worse case is when they prohibit the ownership of our homes. We have moved past the worst case scenario but homestead property tax clearly makes the ownership of our homes impossible. 

  Income tax not slavery. The government has created all the money (the only thing they do actually make) and has a monopoly on its use. They have a right to charge you to use their currency.   Income tax is but charging you a fee (paid in their money) for the right to use their currency as a means exchange.

Government did not make the land and they have no right to claim to own it all with property tax. Income tax does not force you into debt only property tax does. Property tax forces you to make money for the state.  Property tax FORCES you into government servitude in order to keep your home.  Income tax doesn’t keep you from making money. It only means you make less. You aren’t working for the government you are simply being paid less for your work.  If you don’t like what the government takes you need to work for something other than money.  

Slavery only occurs with income tax when you are forced to file your tax return.  Even if government compensates you for your labor it is paid with their money and you were still threatened with the loss of what belongs to you (your liberty and property) if you do not file your return.
Perhaps the greatest lie ever told is the American Dream of home ownership as property tax clearly prohibits ownership making it impossible to ever become free from debt. Property tax is the evolution of serfdom where kings and lords have been replaced by rulers of the State. This medieval extortion, collected on unrealized capital gains, makes the peoples homes into investments of the State. Property tax forces the people into government servitude in order to keep their homes. Clearly as in the past, modern day serfdom is intended to prevent the people from ever acquiring liberty. With property tax the people must pay with government currency. Gone are the good old days when you could pay with chickens, some other farm product or manual labor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slavery is when someone or government forces you to make payment to them for something that belongs to you. Slavery occurs because governments prohibit the ownership of property. In every case this boils down to some form of Property Tax. The worse case is when they prohibit the ownership of our bodies and our tax must be paid with our day to day labor.  The next worse case is when they prohibit the ownership of our homes. We have moved past the worst case scenario but homestead property tax clearly makes the ownership of our homes impossible. </p>
<p>  Income tax not slavery. The government has created all the money (the only thing they do actually make) and has a monopoly on its use. They have a right to charge you to use their currency.   Income tax is but charging you a fee (paid in their money) for the right to use their currency as a means exchange.</p>
<p>Government did not make the land and they have no right to claim to own it all with property tax. Income tax does not force you into debt only property tax does. Property tax forces you to make money for the state.  Property tax FORCES you into government servitude in order to keep your home.  Income tax doesn’t keep you from making money. It only means you make less. You aren’t working for the government you are simply being paid less for your work.  If you don’t like what the government takes you need to work for something other than money.  </p>
<p>Slavery only occurs with income tax when you are forced to file your tax return.  Even if government compensates you for your labor it is paid with their money and you were still threatened with the loss of what belongs to you (your liberty and property) if you do not file your return.<br />
Perhaps the greatest lie ever told is the American Dream of home ownership as property tax clearly prohibits ownership making it impossible to ever become free from debt. Property tax is the evolution of serfdom where kings and lords have been replaced by rulers of the State. This medieval extortion, collected on unrealized capital gains, makes the peoples homes into investments of the State. Property tax forces the people into government servitude in order to keep their homes. Clearly as in the past, modern day serfdom is intended to prevent the people from ever acquiring liberty. With property tax the people must pay with government currency. Gone are the good old days when you could pay with chickens, some other farm product or manual labor</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liberty, justice, taxes, and the U.S. Constitution by Tomas Real</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas Real</dc:creator>
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		<description>Property tax prohibits the ownership of property.  An owner is not some one who must pay another to keep what belongs to them. The essence of ownership is that you don’t have to pay another to keep what you have. You may own your pants and shirt but in America no one is allowed to own their home. 

Home ownership is in fact the greatest lie ever told.  It’s ludicrous to say you support property tax because property &quot;owners&quot; benefit from government protection when property tax makes government the owner.   Government is the one that will throw you out of your home if you don’t pay them and they are the greatest threat to the security of your home. Property tax makes government into a criminal syndicate collecting extortion. With property tax government is denying the people the essence of what it is supposed to protect. 

The ability to “own” property is the source of freedom. What ever stored wealth property represents is worthless when it negates this principle.  Do you believe government has the right to put a price on liberty?  Being forced to pay another to keep what belongs to you is slavery and this is precisely what property tax does. 
Property tax is slavery.

Property tax prohibits the ownership of property. Property tax forces you into government SERVITUDE in order to keep your home and redefines &quot;ownership&quot; as being that which is only allowed if you’re continually wealthy. Property tax prohibits the poor from having anything and separates society into a cast system making it impossible for the poor to have land. 
Property tax forces you to WORSHIP the government with the almighty dollar and is only tax that FORCES you into eternal debt and makes the acquisition of liberty impossible.  Property tax is pure evil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Property tax prohibits the ownership of property.  An owner is not some one who must pay another to keep what belongs to them. The essence of ownership is that you don’t have to pay another to keep what you have. You may own your pants and shirt but in America no one is allowed to own their home. </p>
<p>Home ownership is in fact the greatest lie ever told.  It’s ludicrous to say you support property tax because property &#8220;owners&#8221; benefit from government protection when property tax makes government the owner.   Government is the one that will throw you out of your home if you don’t pay them and they are the greatest threat to the security of your home. Property tax makes government into a criminal syndicate collecting extortion. With property tax government is denying the people the essence of what it is supposed to protect. </p>
<p>The ability to “own” property is the source of freedom. What ever stored wealth property represents is worthless when it negates this principle.  Do you believe government has the right to put a price on liberty?  Being forced to pay another to keep what belongs to you is slavery and this is precisely what property tax does.<br />
Property tax is slavery.</p>
<p>Property tax prohibits the ownership of property. Property tax forces you into government SERVITUDE in order to keep your home and redefines &#8220;ownership&#8221; as being that which is only allowed if you’re continually wealthy. Property tax prohibits the poor from having anything and separates society into a cast system making it impossible for the poor to have land.<br />
Property tax forces you to WORSHIP the government with the almighty dollar and is only tax that FORCES you into eternal debt and makes the acquisition of liberty impossible.  Property tax is pure evil</p>
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		<title>Comment on Melville’s Billy Budd: a Commentary on Burke vs. Paine? by Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thoughts - very helpful.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Liberty, justice, taxes, and the U.S. Constitution by Liberty Patriot - Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty Patriot - Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen -

Your analysis, while relevant for current court proceedings, seems to conclude that a progressive income tax, as suggested in the 16th, is a good thing only because adam smith and &quot;every modern democracy has one.&quot;  Huh?  Let&#039;s see, if every modern &quot;democracy&quot; (thought we were a &quot;republic&quot;?) goes for state run Health Care, and at least one book author and theorist support it, then it must be a good thing, right?

You may have proven a legal technicality in your observations, but you really have some work to do to build your case that taxation, as administrated currently, is moral, was intended by the founders, and has anything at all to do with Liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen -</p>
<p>Your analysis, while relevant for current court proceedings, seems to conclude that a progressive income tax, as suggested in the 16th, is a good thing only because adam smith and &#8220;every modern democracy has one.&#8221;  Huh?  Let&#8217;s see, if every modern &#8220;democracy&#8221; (thought we were a &#8220;republic&#8221;?) goes for state run Health Care, and at least one book author and theorist support it, then it must be a good thing, right?</p>
<p>You may have proven a legal technicality in your observations, but you really have some work to do to build your case that taxation, as administrated currently, is moral, was intended by the founders, and has anything at all to do with Liberty.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liberty, justice, taxes, and the U.S. Constitution by Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And btw, the slavery references are still in the Constitution.  The 3/5ths compromise, the Fugitive Slave clause of Article IV, and Article V&#039;s protection of the Slave Trade are all still there.

It makes you appreciate that our &quot;Founding Fathers&quot; weren&#039;t exactly the infallible gods we sometimes make them out to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And btw, the slavery references are still in the Constitution.  The 3/5ths compromise, the Fugitive Slave clause of Article IV, and Article V&#8217;s protection of the Slave Trade are all still there.</p>
<p>It makes you appreciate that our &#8220;Founding Fathers&#8221; weren&#8217;t exactly the infallible gods we sometimes make them out to be.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liberty, justice, taxes, and the U.S. Constitution by Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sixteenth Amendment came most recent, so it makes the contradictory language in Article 1, sec. 9 obsolete.  When the U.S. Constitution is amended, no language is actually removed, but some language can be made legally meaningless.  Thus, for example, the Prohibition Amendment (the 18th) still remains, even though it was later repealed by the 21st Amendment.

Websites and books that post the U.S. Constitution will often italicize this kind of meaningless text that remains, and the language you cite from Article 1, sec. 9 is indeed obsolete:

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A1Sec9

Given that Article 1 lets Congress &quot;lay and collect Taxes,&quot; and that the 16th Amendment expressly allows Congress to tax incomes, you&#039;re arguments are hopeless, from a legal standpoint.

Is the federal income tax a wise or moral policy?  You can still make the argument here, but there is absolutely no question that the federal income tax is constitutional.  Of course, Adam Smith himself supported a progressive income tax, and every modern democracy has one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sixteenth Amendment came most recent, so it makes the contradictory language in Article 1, sec. 9 obsolete.  When the U.S. Constitution is amended, no language is actually removed, but some language can be made legally meaningless.  Thus, for example, the Prohibition Amendment (the 18th) still remains, even though it was later repealed by the 21st Amendment.</p>
<p>Websites and books that post the U.S. Constitution will often italicize this kind of meaningless text that remains, and the language you cite from Article 1, sec. 9 is indeed obsolete:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A1Sec9" rel="nofollow">http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A1Sec9</a></p>
<p>Given that Article 1 lets Congress &#8220;lay and collect Taxes,&#8221; and that the 16th Amendment expressly allows Congress to tax incomes, you&#8217;re arguments are hopeless, from a legal standpoint.</p>
<p>Is the federal income tax a wise or moral policy?  You can still make the argument here, but there is absolutely no question that the federal income tax is constitutional.  Of course, Adam Smith himself supported a progressive income tax, and every modern democracy has one&#8230;</p>
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